Paolo250376 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Allen is the MAN!! wonderful poem!!!

corosos (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

when will you end the human war?

rabmunch (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

IN every reply you use the word "weird" in a derogatory manner. That is remarkable. Did you know that in the 50's & early sixties the "Beats" (as you like to call them) were labeled as "weird", and considered immoral persons from the gutter? It seems now that the gutter perspective of the "Beats" has been victorious, & anything that questions their understanding of freedom or creativity or fun is "weird", "homosexual-hating-fearing",& snobbish. You live the justifications of a genuine last man.

JamboCordoba (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Its obvious that I'm using the term homophobe in its colloquial capacity. "Do you have beef with gay people?" is clearly the question at hand. Now go ahead and make some weird "joke" about beef being a penis or something. Oh, and please use as much flowery language as you can conjure up.

JamboCordoba (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Just because your herd is composed entirely of elderly nerds with weird Ubermensch complexes (yes, I'm speculating) doesn't mean it isn't a herd. Anyways, I'm unsure as to what grounds you have to even begin to accuse me of being part of a "vapid herd existence." Do you accuse me of this because I like fun? Because I enjoy the literature and poetry of the beats? I already said "bitch please" last time. And I really don't feel like going to the effort to interpret your weird math metaphors.

rabmunch (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

A man of straw, of wet straw. It's safer that way. Life is fun. Fashion is fun too. Enjoy your vapid herd existence. Death will come like a dream. Every moment of a trivial & vain existence are different & entertaining, but all the same. You are a numerator over an infinitely herdlike denominator. A cipher.

rabmunch (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I am no homo-phobe, in that I do not fear "man" in general or whatever is the "same". What is "uptight"? What is the opposite? Relaxed? I am not bored: you give me indigestion & nauseate. How then can I adhere to my motto when you continually disturb me peptically? Mens sane in corpore sano. You are a man made of straw. Stay away from all sparks and flames, or any source of heat: "It'll do you no good". I will clarify: you are a last man.

JamboCordoba (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Stop being obtuse. Are you a homophobe or are you just bored and uptight? Are you actually setting up some kind of straw man who advocates rape? Is this your idea of effective argument by hyperbole? Step out of your Ivory tower. It'll do you some good. And clarify your weird gutter rhetoric.

rabmunch (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Jamboy: digitally massaging the prostate is apparently good for your health as well as being fun, so you may enjoy a double benefit. Why dont you provide the same courtesy for your friend as you fellatiate him? That too may be fun! Conundrum for you tonight: can rape be consensual? It will certainly be "con-sensual", though both you and your boy will have a different "sense" about it. Question: were you born in the gutter, or is living there your way of having some more fun?

JamboCordoba (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Bitch please. I have fun every day. My knowledge of the degree to which Ginsberg was in fact involved in pederasty is limited. Lets keep in mind age of consent varies by country and time period, though. Terminology plays a role here too. The term "boy" can easily denote a young guy of consensual age. And its not as if we totally dismiss the accomplishments of George Washington for being a slave owner. So, chill out, and go have some fun. Let Kerouac inspire you, dammit. Thats what he's here for.